L2550 3 point hitch won't lift any weight

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I ordered a hydraulic pressure gauge, going to be a few days before it gets here.
Get A 2-3' hose and an adapter to fit the threads in the 3pt port. The port is probably BSPP.

If you get good pressure at the 3pt port you will know the problem is downstream. If you are not getting good pressure at least part of the problem is upstream of the port. That cuts the things to look at in half.

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Highly unlikely a pressure issue as the loader works.
More likely a control linkage or three point valve issue.
You don't have the three point speed adjustment set to one extreme or the other do you?
I played with the decent adjustment, its set toward the slower end, but not closed off. Having a gauge isn't a bad idea anyway (and I don't mind an excuse to get more tools), and now I can find out what the pressure is and if I need to shim the relief valve.
 

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I played with the decent adjustment, its set toward the slower end, but not closed off. Having a gauge isn't a bad idea anyway (and I don't mind an excuse to get more tools), and now I can find out what the pressure is and if I need to shim the relief valve.
That adjustment has no effect on lifting speed. It could be completely closed and the lift will still come up fast but wont go down.

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I finally got a gauge and the fittings together and had some time to look at the tractor again. I'm seeing 2200/2300 psi coming from the power-beyond hose off the loader valve (I disconnected the PB between the loader valve and the hydraulic block and put my gauge on a spare quick coupler). So the pump is making good pressure (which makes sense given the loader works fine).

I did notice when I started the tractor, the 3 point has more umph when cold (it'll lift my scraper blade with 1 hand of assistance, when everything warms up, it takes a good bit of extra effort to get it raised).
 
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I finally got a gauge and the fittings together and had some time to look at the tractor again. I'm seeing 2200/2300 psi coming from the power-beyond hose off the loader valve (I disconnected the PB between the loader valve and the hydraulic block and put my gauge on a spare quick coupler). So the pump is making good pressure (which makes sense given the loader works fine).

I did notice when I started the tractor, the 3 point has more umph when cold (it'll lift my scraper blade with 1 hand of assistance, when everything warms up, it takes a good bit of extra effort to get it raised).
OK - that narrows things down.

Do you have the draft control option? If so make sure its disabled as shown in the operators manual.

Check the position of the selector valve on the hydraulic block.

Bad seals in the 3pt cylinder is a possibility. I would try to get a pressure test at the rear before tearing things apart there.

Dan
 
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OK - that narrows things down.

Do you have the draft control option? If so make sure its disabled as shown in the operators manual.

Check the position of the selector valve on the hydraulic block.

Bad seals in the 3pt cylinder is a possibility. I would try to get a pressure test at the rear before tearing things apart there.

Dan
The tractor does not have draft control.

Is there a good place to check the pressure at the rear?
 
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@Lost_Jeep I have a slightly off-topic question: my tractor has a block that looks just like the one in your photo, and when I bought it mine had a plow attached with 3 lines to the control valve, like yours. The two hoses on the righthand face of the block are IN and OUT to the control valve. Any chance you know what hose is on the forward-facing side of the block? Is that for power beyond?
 

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@Lost_Jeep I have a slightly off-topic question: my tractor has a block that looks just like the one in your photo, and when I bought it mine had a plow attached with 3 lines to the control valve, like yours. The two hoses on the righthand face of the block are IN and OUT to the control valve. Any chance you know what hose is on the forward-facing side of the block? Is that for power beyond?
What exactly are you asking?

The diagram ln the owners manual identifies the ports on the outlet block.

Post a picture of your control valve - not to close up so we can see all the ports and hoses on it. Control valves usually have markings on the ports

P = presdure in
T = tank out
PB, BY, or N = power beyond

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@Lost_Jeep I have a slightly off-topic question: my tractor has a block that looks just like the one in your photo, and when I bought it mine had a plow attached with 3 lines to the control valve, like yours. The two hoses on the righthand face of the block are IN and OUT to the control valve. Any chance you know what hose is on the forward-facing side of the block? Is that for power beyond?
Per the image below, it looks the port on the front is a Tank port.
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Per the image below, it looks the port on the front is a Tank port.
View attachment 169982
OUT = pump pressure out to implement
IN = high pressure carryover (power beyond) from implement
TANK = low pressure exhaust oil from implement

The OUT and IN ports only work when the selector valve is set to the "C" position.

Dan
 

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Top side is pressure out
Bottom side is pressure in ( Power beyond )
From bottom is tank or return.
 

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I've been looking over the Manual and looking at the tractor. I'm still unsure of a good way to check the hydraulic pressure at the back of the tractor. Also, I doubt it's the cylinder seals, as it will stay up with weight on it (didn't drift down since last weekend).

I do have a question. Does anyone know what the circled part is or what the part with the arrow does? This is on the same side as the 3-point feedback lever.
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I've been looking over the Manual and looking at the tractor. I'm still unsure of a good way to check the hydraulic pressure at the back of the tractor. Also, I doubt it's the cylinder seals, as it will stay up with weight on it (didn't drift down since last weekend).

I do have a question. Does anyone know what the circled part is or what the part with the arrow does? This is on the same side as the 3-point feedback lever.
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I would GUESS that is the 3pt relief valve.

The WSM will have the procedure for testing it but that test presumes the 3pt piston is not leaking.

Dan
 

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I would GUESS that is the 3pt relief valve.

The WSM will have the procedure for testing it but that test presumes the 3pt piston is not leaking.

Dan
The 3pt safety valve is near the lowering speed adjuster knob under the seat.
 

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It's just a cover.
You can test pressures at either of these (green) ports.

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I haven't gotten to checking the hydraulic pressure at the rear yet. We had a decent snow, so I was using the tractor to clear the driveway with the 3pt scraper blade. I've been setting the 3pt lever to lift then hopping off to help raise the scraper blade. At one point I heard what sounded like a pop (while the 3 pt lever was all the way up), and the 3 point began to work (go up and down effortlessly like it should). It lasted for few minutes (and maybe 4 or 5 up/down cycles) then went back to not wanting to lift any weight. I should mention I had the RPMs up when this occurred.
 

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I haven't gotten to checking the hydraulic pressure at the rear yet. We had a decent snow, so I was using the tractor to clear the driveway with the 3pt scraper blade. I've been setting the 3pt lever to lift then hopping off to help raise the scraper blade. At one point I heard what sounded like a pop (while the 3 pt lever was all the way up), and the 3 point began to work (go up and down effortlessly like it should). It lasted for few minutes (and maybe 4 or 5 up/down cycles) then went back to not wanting to lift any weight. I should mention I had the RPMs up when this occurred.
Sounds like something is wrong in the control circuit. Feedback or position control linkage not working, stuck safety valve, etc.

Dan